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What I find interesting, is when you look on Social Media and the news, those people that were so concerned about how Brexit might damage the futures of young people, now don’t give two hoots about how these lockdowns will effect the futures of young people. Funny that, maybe caring about the young is only an argument they pretend to care about when it suits them?
It's part public fault and part Government fault for not dealing with their own reprobates.The one thing the government will not say is that the public are to blame for the lock down as they didn't comply with the previous measures. They don't want Piers Morgan ranting about how the government is saying "its your fault" - but really that's what has happened. The media, instead of reinforcing the message that the rules such as curfew were designed as whole to reduce social interaction, were more intent on ridiculing certain measures and encouraging people to take no notice. The ONLY measure (apart from a vaccine) that will reduce transmission is reducing social interaction - and that message should be rammed home at all opportunities.
With regard to vaccines - if the Oxford vaccine is shown to be safe (which I believe it is), they should just start to roll it out. Can't see the point in waiting. Doing something is better than doing nothing even if its not 100% effective
An optimist would look at that graph and conclude that the recent lockdowns were massively successful!The last Fraudulent “prediction that wasn’t a prediction” from Vallance turned out like this....
Worth remembering when looking at his latest “prediction that wasn’t a prediction”
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An optimist would look at that graph and conclude that the recent lockdowns were massively successful!
Modelled data in the event of no intervention different from data after an intervention shocker! Who'd have thought it?
If you do want a sweeping statement though, you could try this one
What would this government have to do for you not to think the sun shines out of their arse?
What gets me is that hard-nosed Tories just can’t see that an alternative to this particularly corrupt and incompetent shower is a decent Tory government.
All that would take is for Tories to actually start scrutinising them instead of bending over and ensuring the whole country gets shafted.
Johnson, Hancock, Raab, Patel, Sharma, Jenrick... I could go on. Not a single one of them is fit for office.
Keep Sunak, ditch the rest and start again.
They totally set the tone for non-compliance and have been making flakey, half-arsed decisions on lock-down since.
The government are not blaming the public - that was me.A few points I’d like to make. Deaths and cases are lower than this time last week and there are signs of them plateauing. Evidence that the regional lockdowns were starting to work. Makes the government’s national lockdown even more premature.
On people following the rules, I’m not saying it helps if people don’t listen, but I do truly believe that we’d be in this position now whether folk had stuck to the rules or not. Logic dictates that the moment you open up from a lockdown, infections rise. There’s only so much mask wearing, social distancing and hand washing can do.
Blaming the public is an easy way for the government to shy away from their own failings on test and trace and to build up hospital capacity for what was inevitably going to be a second wave of infections.
You can only ever speculate on that Knutsfordian. Unfortunately your opinion is completely tarnished by your hatred for Labour.The sun doesn't shine out of Boris's bum, it obviously came out of Jeremy Corbyn's before he decided on another election lol
The only comment you make that I really object to is "corrupt". I don't think that any of our politicians from ANY party is corrupt. We may disagree with them but I think they try and act with good intent.
So you slate the current government front bench - but who would you pick from the opposition - odious Anneliese? Brainless Rayner? Creaky Creacy? Non of them could run a department, a company or probably their own household never mind a government
So flakey decisions - well we will never know how Labour options would have worked - but do you really, really think they wouldn't have died under the torrential tirade of abuse that they would have received in the media? Not a chance they would be better. And when you look abroad, despite the view that we have performed worse than our peers - its not that different really and it will take some time before true comparisons can be made.
One thing is absolutely certain, I bet the Labour front bench are think thank the lordy we lost that election. Imagine that anti Semitism report landing right now on Corbyn? Whatever you think about this government, it could/would definitely have been worse under Labour
Aaaah well that because I think you need to reunite and form back as one club - but that's a whole new thread !!I may disagree with Andy on some of this, I may disagree with Ben on other bits but we all agree on supporting 74.
Knutsfordian... on the other hand.... ??
Unpicking the slightly dodgy grammar, yes I do think some of the current crop of Labour MPs really have what it takes to be leaders in this frantic world. Enough for a Cabinet? Debatable. However, the current government has shown that’s not a prerequisite. They are a shambles.And do you really think that some of the current crop of Labour MPs really have what it takes to be leaders in this frantic world?
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