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Paul/Blackie, I am accepting the outcome. However, I am questioning the actions of the leading lights of the Brexit campaign during the referendum, who have now decided to jump ship and leave someone else to carry out the task of triggering article 50 and conducting future negotiations with the EU to secure the best deal.
Who''s stupid enough to claim 52% did?I don't think 52% of the country voted to leave the EU as a protest.
Who''s stupid enough to claim 52% did?
Elizabeth Hurley said:I will, however, allow myself to be rude about the hoards of post Brexit whingers who claim to love democracy but object violently to anyone who disagrees with them. Bring it on you ranting luvvies, fat cat bankers and multinational corporations. Continue to alienate the humble voice of Middle England. Knock yourselves out calling us ill educated Neanderthals and spit a bit more venom and vitriol our way. You are showing yourselves in all your mean spirited, round headed, elitist glory, and what an unappealing lot you are. Note: you attract flies with honey, not vinegar; small wonder the majority of the country flew in the opposite direction.
I wonder if 'Elizabeth Hurley' has ever considered anger management?
At least with her privileged background she can afford it!
I personally find the actions of the party's MP's undemocratic in trying to oust a leader who has been democratically elected by members of the Labour Party. The party's membership of 600,000, an increase of 100,000 since the referendum result, makes it the biggest grassroots party in the country. That is the democratic mandate Corbyn has and the type of movement he is trying to create. If these MP's aren't happy with it, then maybe they should form an SDP-type party or join with the Liberals. Or they may want to accept Corbyn is the leader and fight the Tories rather than their own party. So to compare Corbyn to an Eastern bloc leader is totally unfair.The MPs don't want their leader, and the leader insists on clinging on like a late 1980's early 1990's eastern Block leader. Ironic, right?
Yes, you're that right Labour have lost their appeal to the working classes in the North, who are concerned about immigration, who voted to leave the EU in huge numbers and many of whom have been left behind by globalisation and de-industrialisation under Thatcher and this government's austerity. I don't believe though that a group of Blairite MP's are in touch with the very same people who have deserted the Labour party in their millions since 2001. So on this evidence, it is totally unfair to compare Corbyn to some eastern Block leader.Labours heartlands are the working class North, and Corbyn couldn't be further from representing that. He's a private school educated career politician, thanks spent 30 years living off tax payers money attending far left rally's calling Hamas his "friends". That man doesn't represent the working class, he represents the liberal middle class of London, and their warped views on the world.
Why? Well because they're our closest neighbours and our biggest trading partners, accounting for almost half of all our exports and three million jobs. I don't understand why Britain would want to turn its back on this. You talk about undemocratic rules and decisions, yet as a member of the EU, we have a say in shaping those rules and decisions like the 27 other countries. This will no longer be the case once we exit and say remain a member of the single market like Norway or Switzerland, but with no say, having to pay in and having to accept free movement of people.Alan in a "shrinking globalised world" why would you want to stay closest to those in a continent with one of the slowest economic growth figures in the world ie the EU, with absolutely no say in their decisions but still having to abide by their undemocratic rules and decisions? To me that is absolutely bonkers. Following the fair, democratic vote we will be free to trade with the rest of the world, make our own decisions, have control of our country back in our hands and we will without doubt prosper from that. Still all doom and gloom from those that wanted to remain though, nothing really positive during the campaign and even less afterwards!
Disagree with most of what you say and it seems the majority of this country do too. Respect your opinion though and only time will tell who was right I guess, but I stand by my decision to vote out of the EU and I would never change it.Why? Well because they're our closest neighbours and our biggest trading partners, accounting for almost half of all our exports and three million jobs. I don't understand why Britain would want to turn its back on this. You talk about undemocratic rules and decisions, yet as a member of the EU, we have a say in shaping those rules and decisions like the 27 other countries. This will no longer be the case once we exit and say remain a member of the single market like Norway or Switzerland, but with no say, having to pay in and having to accept free movement of people.
As for trading with the rest of the world. The answer to this question is we already do this. It was perfectly possible for Britain to be an EU member, trade with other EU countries and with the likes of China, America and India. I don't understand this logic of it's one or another. We do both. There's no doom and gloom from me, I voted Remain for positive reasons as I believe in a Britain big and strong in the world working with its EU neighbours and other countries outside the EU in as Alan rightly points out, in a "shrinking globalised world." Rather than it being the Remain campaign who talked down Britain and its place in the world, I believe it was those who advocated Leave.
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