I was specifically referring to the team manager application process which in my opinion was too convoluted, drawn out and bureaucratic. As a result we failed to make the right appointment. We had an opportunity to appoint a proven experienced respected manager who would have comfortably kept us in the NPL with his knowledge and manager/player contacts at NPL level and above. We no doubt would have treated any new players and associates of the club with respect as we always do, the difference being that the standard would have been higher. I have no issues with the principles of 74 however for me the priority at the time was securing our NPL status and not taking a massive risk in appointing someone unproven with little experience. I respect all views but the most important thing for me is that our club grows in every way. Sadly I can only see our club shrinking right now and the midland league will only shrink us further I feel. I hope I am wrong and we can bounce back… time will tell. Up the 74
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I think the ethos of the club is generally to do things the right way is it not? (Which I feel we do a great job of on the whole) Legally and morally, both on and off the pitch. Unlike how things ended with most of us giving Vics our support and switching to 74, correct me if I’m wrong…
Now, I think the point that's trying to be made here is, managers and players can get our club and the ethos while having ambition and thinking of themselves at the same time and their careers? - if the quality is there, then why shouldn’t they!. We've had players in the past who have been dirty on the pitch and showed passion, who must have "got the ethos" but flip side others who were better than what we had at the time in ability, but weren't given a chance as they didn’t apparently fit our ethos. For a club who say we cant compete at present with the bigger budgets around us, do we limit ourselves from bringing in quality better than we have currently, by having an outlook of we need to know of they get us as a club rather than how they perform and what results we get? - now, I think its a fair question to ask.
Now I’m also not sure Greenman said they don’t get our Ethos and what we stand for as a club - it’s comments like this that can drive people away from giving this great club their support, time and hard earned money. Opinions are opinions and we are all entitled, we won’t always agree on here and see eye to eye on some topics, but we should never be questioning each other’s reasons behind their support of this club, Must say, I think that’s a low comment on occasion.
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You are possibly the most toxic person at this club, anyone who shares an opinion or view that differs from yourself, seen it across multiple postings when you try and call people out or ridicule them for having a different view point than you. I think you misunderstand that the manager has nothing to with the mismanagement and running of a club, not really sure your point is overly valid. My view just in case you actually were interested, was I want the club to be as successful as it possibly can be, there’s so much room for growth and progression if we get the manager and recruitment right. As a result of getting those things right, we’ll see an improvement in performances, results, the club will be more appealing to new fans and thus generating more income and ensuring the club is still able to function. The guys at the top on the board keep the ethos, but get the recruitment right with the manager and the other things will come. As for supporting the club, I’ll support the club in any way I want, you can’t dictate how I view things, you can’t dictate my opinions, people will have a differing opinion than you and to call people out and ridicule them on an open forum only serves to turn people away, I’d much rather have a debate with the wittoners on here than you, because they at least see different opinions as just that, they may not agree with them, but they certainly don’t try and bully people into seeing things in their way. I think you need a timeout James, think about how you speak to others on here and question their loyalty and support
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I just hope the board resists the temptation to choose what might be the “easy option” and go for an ex 74 player or someone with previous links to the club.
I think we need new ideas and a management team that can inject some real life into the squad.
The club needs a lift and a vision that we can all get behind
I think we need new ideas and a management team that can inject some real life into the squad.
The club needs a lift and a vision that we can all get behind
I disagree we should rule anything out depending on the individual
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The main focus needs to be on someone who is able to do the job for us and within the constraints of the club budget. Within that, it’s probably implicit that the successful candidate gets us and what we are about. Present or previous connections with the club are neither here or there if they can’t meet our needs.
Hopefully this also includes a candidate who is geographically well suited to the league we are going to be placed in next season. The new man can have all the bells and whistles of success or potential success in the game, but if he has to travel a way down the M6 just to reach Townfield (and same can be said for players coming in) then it’s probably going to be a problem just waiting to happen; you don’t need to look too far for examples of what I’m talking about.
I accept some posters have become frustrated by what they feel has been a protracted process, but I fully back the Board to make the right decision for the needs of the club with whoever they appoint to move us forward and get us on the right track next season.
Hopefully this also includes a candidate who is geographically well suited to the league we are going to be placed in next season. The new man can have all the bells and whistles of success or potential success in the game, but if he has to travel a way down the M6 just to reach Townfield (and same can be said for players coming in) then it’s probably going to be a problem just waiting to happen; you don’t need to look too far for examples of what I’m talking about.
I accept some posters have become frustrated by what they feel has been a protracted process, but I fully back the Board to make the right decision for the needs of the club with whoever they appoint to move us forward and get us on the right track next season.
I honestly think our club is at a real crossroads and I hope we can look at a new direction and bring in a management team that is completely fresh to our club. Whilst I fully respect the loyalty given to our board I’m not as confident as others regarding appointing the right person. No disrespect to any of them, they all put 100% effort in and work tirelessly but I honestly think we are lacking a ‘football director’ who has knowledge and expertise to canvas and recruit the right manager. Whilst many may disagree most successful clubs have specialist recruitment teams. Although we are not in this position there may be someone out there that could help us ensure we make the right appointment,
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Football Directors and specialist recruitment teams are a little beyond us and probably many other clubs at our level I suspect
I think in my opinion the person in a good position to help us make the right recruitment selection we allowed to leave and subsequently he joined the Management staff elsewhere
I think in my opinion the person in a good position to help us make the right recruitment selection we allowed to leave and subsequently he joined the Management staff elsewhere
Think the biggest issue is that we’re 2 months since Damien departed and yet we’re still in the same situation. That’s worrying. How much longer are we going to leave it? The longer period of time we give the new person to prepare for next season now the better! They can assess what we have and see what’s staying plus plan to bring in new personnel.
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Appointing a manger at this stage of the season is always going to be hard
People who might be interested might stay with their existing club until the summer
And maybe those that have applied have been rejected
Or maybe things are happening quietly in the background as nothing leaks from the Board
People who might be interested might stay with their existing club until the summer
And maybe those that have applied have been rejected
Or maybe things are happening quietly in the background as nothing leaks from the Board
Think we’d be mad not to do it now. I don’t think we have the luxury of expecting someone to become available in the summer or given our current plight we'll be everyone's first choice. Would give the place a lift if there was something in the background ahead of 2 huge games this weekend
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I don’t think the Board have that expectation to be honest. I’m sure there has already been interest in taking the position and I’m guessing - only guessing, I’m no wiser on the facts than anyone else - that those potential candidates will already be aware of the likely situation but have expressed an interest anyway.
It’s perfectly understandable that members/fans are frustrated at not hearing any news, but perhaps the Board is just ensuring that they secure their man/woman before giving out any further updates? I’m guessing the process is further down the road than we imagine.
Not possibly the most toxic person at the club - he absolutely IS. Hands down.You are possibly the most toxic person at this club, anyone who shares an opinion or view that differs from yourself, seen it across multiple postings when you try and call people out or ridicule them for having a different view point than you. I think you misunderstand that the manager has nothing to with the mismanagement and running of a club, not really sure your point is overly valid. My view just in case you actually were interested, was I want the club to be as successful as it possibly can be, there’s so much room for growth and progression if we get the manager and recruitment right. As a result of getting those things right, we’ll see an improvement in performances, results, the club will be more appealing to new fans and thus generating more income and ensuring the club is still able to function. The guys at the top on the board keep the ethos, but get the recruitment right with the manager and the other things will come. As for supporting the club, I’ll support the club in any way I want, you can’t dictate how I view things, you can’t dictate my opinions, people will have a differing opinion than you and to call people out and ridicule them on an open forum only serves to turn people away, I’d much rather have a debate with the wittoners on here than you, because they at least see different opinions as just that, they may not agree with them, but they certainly don’t try and bully people into seeing things in their way. I think you need a timeout James, think about how you speak to others on here and question their loyalty and support
I agree!
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You are possibly the most toxic person at this club, anyone who shares an opinion or view that differs from yourself, seen it across multiple postings when you try and call people out or ridicule them for having a different view point than you. I think you misunderstand that the manager has nothing to with the mismanagement and running of a club, not really sure your point is overly valid. My view just in case you actually were interested, was I want the club to be as successful as it possibly can be, there’s so much room for growth and progression if we get the manager and recruitment right. As a result of getting those things right, we’ll see an improvement in performances, results, the club will be more appealing to new fans and thus generating more income and ensuring the club is still able to function. The guys at the top on the board keep the ethos, but get the recruitment right with the manager and the other things will come. As for supporting the club, I’ll support the club in any way I want, you can’t dictate how I view things, you can’t dictate my opinions, people will have a differing opinion than you and to call people out and ridicule them on an open forum only serves to turn people away, I’d much rather have a debate with the wittoners on here than you, because they at least see different opinions as just that, they may not agree with them, but they certainly don’t try and bully people into seeing things in their way. I think you need a timeout James, think about how you speak to others on here and question their loyalty and support
The ignore user feature is recommended. Speaking from experience. It’s very refreshing
It’s a shame the forum admins don’t grow a pair and sort it out though. But we all know why he gets away with it… don’t we @Edge?