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Simple answer Knutsfordian.....no..
What he said
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Simple answer Knutsfordian.....no..
DittoWhat he said
Might it be time for a grown up conversation about the merits of a single Northwich 1874/Vics team?
While appreciating your comments, I would say
a) the "number in attendance" was minimal, and it has taken them quite a long while to be "concerned about the state of their club"
b) the number involved have no realistic prospect of achieving their aim "to keep it afloat for the foreseeable future", other than that the foreseeable future is very short by definition
c) the Rushe tenure will take a long time to be "consigned to history", having soured too many relationships with the ex-fanbase, let alone with the local community and businesses, and there is no tangible evidence that "many" now lapsed supporters will return to them
d) few would claim 1874 to be a "phoenix club", but similarly few would accept that there is "no association whatever" to the old club (which is presumably what you meant) - the vast majority of the founding members/owners come from the ranks of the disillusioned and disenfranchised NVFC fanbase
e) few "claim ownership of the history of NVFC" - what we do claim is a representation of at least a significant part of the legacy of that club and an embodiment of the fact that any football club resides primarily in its supporters.
f) we foresee a single Northwich team without the need to lower ourselves to an acceptance of the wrongdoings of a club which has been teetering on the brink now for many years. At least in my view, it would be morally and ethically reprehensible to countenance any association with what is left of NVFC. They have burnt those bridges long ago.
The brand NVFC is toxic, and little can be done to change that. Any amalgamation would more likely result in reduced rather than increased attendances, and could do untold damage to our attempts to establish our good name within the local community.
That does not detract from the continued need to search for ways of attracting more support, however.
I'm with Tez on that Linnets question.
And I will readily concede that anyone explaining what 1874 are all about has quite a tough job on their hands, partly for the very reasons you cited earlier. But the explanation will probably differ at least in degrees of emphasis of the various factors depending on who is asking for the explanation. While we can't be all things to all men (and women and children), we are allowed to have a complex genesis, and it is one which is still crystallising into an independent identity. With Linnets it was much easier in this respect, but if you take the likes of FCUM (or even Wimbledon) they too have had to go through a period of self-analysis and "find themselves".
If there is a complete break with the past (I actually think that's impossible) then for people like me who don't live local why bother with 1874? There's plenty of other teams closer with no link to Vics either.At the risk of repetition...we should be completely different!
Change the badge,
Change the strip,
Keep the name (because it still represent the town/origin of the clubs supporters/reason for existence)
Anyone still wanting to keep a major link with vics should go and watch them if they feel they want to be associated with the club that much!....(tried that...good luck!!).
The main thing we need to get over to people is what the club represents NOT where it came from.
The less we are linked to vics the better from my point of view!
Sorry mate but I just don't understand your opinion. We're currently in the top 5 break away clubs, pushing for promotion, if the reduced attendance is due to performance on the pitch thank goodness were not in the bottom 5.Spot on Mark.
The footballs the reason the attendance are on the decline, but with the like of Connors and Jackson back, and start using width and going forward and not backwards, we'll start scoring some goals.
Attendances won't rise again as quick as they fell, but get some attacking football going, and push for the title, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them 300/350 come march.
Sorry mate but I just don't understand your opinion.
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