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General Election 2017

Who will you be voting for on June 8th

  • Conservative

    Votes: 15 32.6%

  • Labour

    Votes: 21 45.7%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 3 6.5%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 3 6.5%

  • Green

    Votes: 1 2.2%

  • Other

    Votes: 3 6.5%
  • Total voters
    46
Who's the only man or woman to go into parliament with good intentions?.
 
The BBC commissioned ComRes to assemble an audience to reflect the opinions of people locally/nationally. Don't blame the BBC if their opinions are not 100% right-wing. This government got 24% of the vote last time.

All three topics (Brexit, the economy and taxes) were covered during the debate. Maybe not as specific questions, but then on the first the Tories would have said "we're not going to tell you what we are negotiating" and "we will decide if it's a good deal or not". "The economy" is the Conservative answer to almost every question anyway. And taxes? See above discussion.
 
Nicki said:
I think it's number 1 now.

The point is, that song has not come direct from the Labour Party. Members of the front bench are personally smearing Corbyn.
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I'd say smearing is when people make things up, such as when people make things up about UKIP.

Discuss Corbyns links with Terrorism isn't smearing, these links are scarily real.
 
The real loser last night, was Angus Robertson.

The way he responded to Paul Nuttall on terrorism was the lowest point of the debate.

I also think Corbyn made a crucial mistake. It was clear as day last night that he is in bed with the SNP. Essentially wiping out Labours chances of winning back seats in Scotland, because it leaves Scotland with two choices. If you're pro-union boy Conservative, if you're pro Scottish independence vote SNP.

He will struggle to win without winning back seats on scotland.

Leanne Woods did well, she may take seats from Labour in Wales.
 
Smearing doesn't have to be making stuff up. Say an MP has an affair - it's happened, it's true - the other party will run a smear campaign about them not being trustworthy. Simple example but you get the idea.

'Terrifying', 'scarily real'. You guys sure know how to make things sound dramatic!
 
Surely the thought of John McDonnell and Diane Abbott running the country scares you, even if you like Corbyn!
 
In my opinion there is not a strong politician in the country at the moment.
 
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Toddy, have you not been listening to a word Theresa May has been saying?! :D
 
Andy said:
Surely the thought of John McDonnell and Diane Abbott running the country scares you, even if you like Corbyn!
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No, it really doesn't. Well... Diane Abbott yes, but not because of the IRA, more down to incompetency but then you see, the Tories have rather cornered that market too.
 
Atticus Finch said:
Having a bare-faced liar and coward like May as PM backed up with baffoons like Mad Boris and David Davis scares me far more than that!
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Boris is largely harmless, and if the rumours are correct, Boris will be resigned to the back benches come June,

McDonnell - IRA lover, self admitted Marxist and known woman hater. No doubt the nastiest person in British politics.

Abbott - She doesn't know what day of the week it is, and she want to be incharge of Immigration and Policing.

Emily Thornberry - Thinks a white van is a symbol of racism. Such a snob.

Keir Starmer - Couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag, let alone the European Union.


Compare that to the other Cabinet on offer. Amber Rudd (who was very good last night), David Davis, Philip Hammond, Michael Fallon, Chris Grayling and so on. A far more compentent cabinet.

The Government run the country. You look at those two potential cabinets and it's painfully clear which is the more competent.
 
Andy said:
Compare that to the other Cabinet on offer. Amber Rudd (who was very good last night), David Davis, Philip Hammond, Michael Fallon, Chris Grayling and so on. A far more compentent cabinet.
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I'd lose Hammond and Fallon from that group. Glad you didn't include Jeremy Hunt!

Andy said:
Keir Starmer - Couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag, let alone the European Union.
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Being fair, I think many would say that of May (and be right). She's a huuummmmungous weak link. Toddy is right in that they just don't make politicians the way they used to.

I think Jezza has already dropped some hints that Diane Abbot may not necessarily be made Home Secretary.
 
Nicki - I'm measuring education on personal experience. I taught a dumbed down curriculum 10 years ago, I now teach a rigorous one. Trust me, Children can do so much more now.
 
Competency is in the eye of the beholder.

I would not expect you, Andy, to consider the likes of Rudd, Hammond and Fallon incompetent, just as I would not expect Nikki to think the same of Thornberry, McDonnell and Starmer.
I would expect a general level of agreement on Johnson and Abbott, though, and there are worrying signs that May is joining them.

She will still in all probability win, but it won't be because of but rather despite her performance (or non-performance). Fortunately, she won't be doing much of the actual Brexit nogotiating (just as Corbyn wouldn't be), because she'd be like a fish out of water.
 
I'd disagree.

May maybe a woeful campaigner, but that doesn't mean she's a bad politician, and couldn't negotiate with the EU. As Home sec, she got good deals with the EU then. She's been there, done that.

Corbyn however, it a very good campaigner. He's good at telling a crowd what they want to hear. It's pretty much all his done for 30 years - stand on a podium and preach to the converted.

But, a good public speaker doesn't necessarily make a good politician.

Donald Trump is a fantastic public speaker, he knew exactly what so many people wanted to hear. But I doubt many of you would say he's a good politician?
 
Exactly, Corbyn is a disaster as the leader of his party, never mind the country. Even The Economist, a left-wing rag, says he is too socialist to make a go of the economy. Corbyn is a campaigner, he won't be able to deliver.
 
Does anyone actually believe he would be able to deliver all these promises? Every time I look he's offered something 'cheaper'. How is all this going to be afforded? We're going to having cuts for bloody decades afterwards to pay for it!
 
Kit said:
Does anyone actually believe he would be able to deliver all these promises? Every time I look he's offered something 'cheaper'. How is all this going to be afforded? We're going to having cuts for bloody decades afterwards to pay for it!
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Precisely.

Can't deny that the countries Finances are have been improved by the Conservatives. The country is close to wiping away that deficit.

Why throw it all away now because a 68 year old Student from Islington has offered lots of shiney free things?

He'll just take the country back to a bigger mess than it was in 2010. And then you will see the real meaning of Austerity.

It's madness to throw it all away for 1 or 2 good years, to then put the country in a position where it will have decades of struggle.

This forum of all places surely should be a place where people condone the philosophy of "living within our means".
 
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At some point people have to start thinking, how is all this going to be paid for by just making the rich pay 'a little bit more'? I don't think there's anyone he's not targeted with something either free or cheaper.
 
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