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General Election 2017

Who will you be voting for on June 8th

  • Conservative

    Votes: 15 32.6%
  • Labour

    Votes: 21 45.7%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 3 6.5%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 3 6.5%
  • Green

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 6.5%

  • Total voters
    46
Looks like May will be gone soon, thank god.

Hopefully the Tories can achieve in a few days what Labour have been trying for two years - getting rid of their Hapless leader!

Another GE? Hopefully not. Nobody wants another one of them so soon!

Was quite amazing to see Corbyn try and score points on these two resignations. He’s had 47 resignations under his tenure! The words Pot and Kettle come to mind!

Can’t all this business just wait until the World Cups over atleast?!
 
It is lucky then that we can rely upon the strong and stable tory party to look after everyone's interests.


Still trust them more than the Jew Hating Momentum backed Corbyns Labour
 
Oh yes they can ! Labour policy is to espouse Brexit but to keep us in the customs union and in the single market, which basically means staying within the EU and all its entities except the Parliament and commission. Even Labour's Momentum (Landsdown?) ruler in chief admits that should Labour be elected then a severe run on the pound is likely with all the associated turmoil. You might think that the Conservatives have a few problems, but really be careful what you wish for. Will labour policies stand up in government - not a hope in hell.
 
Whereas the Conservative policy (the current version, better check when you read this that it hasn't changed again) is to exit the customs union but create a customs partnership, to free the UK from EU regulations but sign up to a "Common Rule Book", to end EU immigration but offer "EU worker/student mobility", and to do all of this using a yet-to-be-invented IT system to avoid the need for any border between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic (meaning they will be happy to see a border with the EU across which EU citizens can wander unchallenged?) - and that's just on the trade aspects of EU membership, I won't try to list all the other aspects which seem to be being sidelined anyway.

It is a complete mess. There is still no viable plan, 2 years on. I think a lot of people are slowly realising that easy free trade negotiations with the EU27 ("one of the easiest in human history", Liam Fox, June 2016) were a myth, notwithsatnding that they can't start these negotiations properly until we have actually officially left.

They should have set up a cross-party body to negotiate the whole thing 2 years ago. It might then have gained the support of people across the great divide between the 52% and the 48%. As it is, the chasm has deepened and we are left with an alternative which pleases nobody or a no-deal option which will delight those hardliners like Mogg and co who have their investments well protected and enough money stashed away to weather the storm - one of that no-deal crowd said on the radio this morning "give it ten years and we will look back on this as the correct decison". Do you have ten years to waste? Check your savings accounts.

But at least we'll have blue passports. Just like Costa Rica, Brazil, Sudan, India and North Korea. And many more. Yippee.
 
Yes, labour could have a crack at Brexit. Problem is they would also spend 5 years bankrupting the country. They also have a totally inadequate Marxist shadow cabinet and would mess it up even more than the Tories.
However, having recently met Theresa May (yes honestly), I willed her to be different to the way she is in front of the cameras. Sadly I can confirm she is even less personable and can’t even command a room of a few people never mind a cabinet of politicians. She literally comes across as a rabbit stuck in the headlights of an oncoming car.
 
The problem isn't Labour. It isn't even the Conservatives. It is Brexit. Nobody would be able to square the circle in 2 months, 2 years or 20 years. It is an insoluble mess. Wake me up in ten years. Or maybe not.
 
I agree with that, Alan. Not sure anyone could deal with the legal complexities in the time given.
 
But at least we'll have blue passports. Just like Costa Rica, Brazil, Sudan, India and North Korea. And many more. Yippee.

And, as I have just been reminded, Croatia. Yes, they are in EU and blue. Another myth busted.
 
Perhaps those that voted to get us into this mess might want to think about how they managed to sign away a country's sovereignty without any accountability. For me, I would take us back to a position that repealed successive EU Treaties like Mastricht and Lisbon. Be members of an economic community and no further. We were duped 40 years ago and have been been until now. The EU is just a huge protectionist racket and we really do need to be out. The problem isn't brexit - its the lack of guts in the centre left who want a socialist society via the back door.
 
Ben Labour would do what they always do borrow money and get the country into massive debt with no idea how to pay it off.
I wouldn't let corbyn run a bath never mind the country.
Yet, national debt and borrowing has gone up under the Tories despite their austerity. They also keep talking about how Labour wrecked the economy in 2008, but surely that was the banks and a world financial crisis. We have a strong economy apparently also despite our growth and pound falling due to our decision to leave the EU. Plus the Tories have shown they can't manage Brexit and things such as the railways. Just look at Northern and Govia.

I'm not a massive fan of Corbyn but I'll vote for him if it means a Labour government and a different approach to Brexit and running the economy such as actually investing in infrastructure and public services, protecting our NHS, paying a proper wage, building affordable housing and nationalising our shambolic rail industry. Nothing wrong in investing in our economy to promote growth.

Let's remember Weaver Vale also voted Labour too, majority support on this forum poll too so I'm not the only one! Where I am in Blackburn (safe seat admittedly and always Labour), Labour got in by a 20,000 majority. Goes to show though that many Northern towns remain stubbornly Labour and so they should in my mind. May is a weak leader and the Tories are making a complete hash of the Brexit negotiations. The public won't view that with sympathy. It is Cameron and the Tories who got us into this avoidable Brexit mess (we should be focusing on domestic issues) and I hope they pay the price for it.
 
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"those that voted to get us into this mess" ???

That would be the "will of the people" wouldn't it? Or at least the will of the 17.4 million.
 
Still trust them more than the Jew Hating Momentum backed Corbyns Labour
A really generalised, sweeping statement.

There is undoubtedly anti-semitism in a small element of the Labour Party membership and that needs rooting out. But the vast majority of the party are not and have spent their lives campaigning against racism and promoting equality and human rights.

And to take lessons from a Tory party who have been found to have a clear problem with Islamophobia (see the Muslim Council of Britain comments), is extremely rich and quite frankly laughable.
 
Corbyn has just made Naz Shah the Equalities Minitster.

Yes that’s right, that’s not a typo!!

Naz Shah - the woman the Retweeted and Liked a tweet saying that the Girls raped in Rotherham should “shut up”

The nutters have well and truely taken over the asylum!
 
but brought on by tory party internal politics and ambition to the detriment of the Nation and its People.


People like to bringing that up, but it’s totally irrelavent really.

Yes you’re right, Cameron held the referendum after pressure from within his party.

But that doesn’t glass over the fact 17 million people voted for Brexit.

Comments like that make it sound as if you’d prefer it if people were never given their democratic vote, and prefer it if the shambolic inner workings were kept out of sight from the General Public like they were for so long.
 
http://www.mcb.org.uk/the-muslim-co...-inquiry-into-islamophobia-in-the-tory-party/

Refers to Islamophobic incidents including from Bob Blackman and nine other Tory candidates and representatives of the party . Labour shouldn't have to take lectures from the Tories on racism!


No defending the above.

But there is a difference. Racism is dealt with. Usually at a grassroots level where it mainly occurs.

Corbyns Labour will do anything but deal with Anti Semitism. They recently changed their code on Anti Semitism so they can do anything but deal with it.

https://forward.com/opinion/405008/shocking-new-definition-of-anti-semitism-betrays-jews/

They don’t seem to want to deal with Anti Semitism. How can they? Corbyns the leader thanks to Momentum, and Anti Semitism is fine in Momentum.
 
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