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So despite agreeing to meet with Greensill 10 times - there is no evidence that Treasury officials gave anything to Greensill above and beyond that being made available to all other companies. So exactly what is the charge here? Wasting police/treasury/civil service time? That's why I am saying that there needs to be a crime identified if any of this is to stick - and if there is a crime then punish the villains !Ah, so once again it is the Labour Party that is at fault! Jeesh, Knutsfordian you should get a job working for Boris and his cronies given your ability to spin a story?.
Lobbying has existed ever since the serpent persuaded Eve to take the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. And of course the TUs lobby parties of all colours as do other bodies - including most of the charities I support.
But the difference between between these relationships and many fostered with the Tory party is that it is private gain that drives them.
I can only imagine how hard pressed and busy Treasury officials must have been over the last 12 months what with managing the furlough system along with doing ‘the day job’.
Yet despite this, during this period senior Treasury officials met with representatives of Greensill 10 times!
Oh, and I could also drop in the Jenrick - Desmond scandal here. You recall this don’t you?
We agree that lobbying has been going on for time immemorial and that sometimes it is for good reasons - "Lobbying and trying to influence government decisions predates any parliamentary democracy and was just as prevalent in any Labour government as any Conservative one - isn't that what the Unions do by paying for Labour's election expenses and sponsoring MPs? So this whole murky business of who is exerting influence, and when, is a matter of concern and debate but not necessarily every instance is an incidence of corruption."
Where we disagree is that I think Starmer is another one of his opposition and bluster charges without any evidence to back it up. Unless he can find the crime he's just making himself look a useless idiot - and there are already plenty of those in the Labour Party - which goes back to my criticisms about their approach and lack of talent. They have too many tub thumpers and not enough leaders and strategists. Even when given a good opportunity to cause the Conservatives some pain, Labour are putting the wrong ammunition in the gun and firing blanks !!