Cummings, Johnson and this whole shit show

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Knutsfordian

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And who put us in this 'dire position'? The Tory government. No blame elsewhere they have completely screwed up.

Shows you for what you are if you think the only justification for foreign aid is to get plaudits for it. No empathy with the most needy on the planet, you've previously pointed out "charity begins at home" showing your selective view on who deserves it.
Oh so the pandemic was of the UK's making? The billions of £'s spent on the pandemic cannot be spent again and that's the realisation that will bite when this is over. That includes all spending.

With regard to foreign aid - I agree with you its ultimate aim is to benefit those worse off than ourselves. That said how many countries use aid to enhance their "soft powers"? Part of the argument against cutting aid has been that other countries will think less of us for doing so. My argument is that they never thought that well of us in the first place !!

Would be interesting to see if Labour was returned to power would they immediately restore aid to its previous levels - and if so what they would cut to pay for it.
 

James Wood

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Trouble is James that Alistair Campbell is so badly tarnished by the 2nd referendum campaign and his pro EU rhetoric, anything else he says will be consigned to the bin by many without a second thought - and quite rightly too in my view.

The tactic employed by Campbell and his cohorts to get the referendum result overturned and continually running back to the EU to advise them how to work against the UK government is largely responsible for the mess that is the withdrawal agreement. The MPs that were part of the Parliamentary shambles that existed after the referendum have a lot to answer for. I can never remember another incidence where a UK government in negotiation with foreign powers was so incredibly undermined by activities within our own Parliament.

Add to that his continued defence of a Labour administration that completely screwed up towards the end of its time by trying to rewrite the events of the financial crash and his standing shows no sign of returning to the point it was at the height of his powers.

As for foreign aid - I am not sure if all this supposed good will towards the UK for our largesse in throwing £billions around in overseas aid ever really materialised. It is likely that the people who got the aid were pleased to get it - but did they ever know it came from UK tax payers given we didn't stamp courtesy of the UK on their foreheads or make them read a plaque as per the EU? Seemingly for as long as I can remember the UK has been treated with nothing but contempt, unless of course our media failed to report the unerring gratitude of the recipients - which I doubt.

And a vindictive government? With national debt now 100% of GDP or as close to it as one can get, there will be no room in the immediate future to throw vast sums of money at public spending. There are incredibly tough times coming. If you ever watch the Kaiser report on RT, he has been warning for quite some time that the USA is about to experience a bout of high inflation, with corresponding increases in interest rates. The Fed are keeping a lid on this just now, but there are a number of indices that show that inflation is increasing. Now in the UK the Bank of England has started to warn of higher inflation too. If rates go up then debt repayment will start to swallow up a much greater sum than the £9billion p.a. than it does at the moment and the screws will really start to bite . That's going to be true no matter which party is in power. It also severely limits the additional quantitative easing that can be applied without exacerbating the position with regard to inflation.

So post pandemic there needs to be some realistic (cross party) acceptance of the dire position we will be in and what is really possible going forwards.

“So post pandemic there needs to be some realistic (cross party) acceptance of the dire position we will be in and what is really possible going forwards.”

Agreed. So spending £Bs extra on nuclear warheads that we don’t need should be the first area of planned spending that is cut
 

Phil Bradley

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Oh so the pandemic was of the UK's making? The billions of £'s spent on the pandemic cannot be spent again and that's the realisation that will bite when this is over. That includes all spending.

With regard to foreign aid - I agree with you its ultimate aim is to benefit those worse off than ourselves. That said how many countries use aid to enhance their "soft powers"? Part of the argument against cutting aid has been that other countries will think less of us for doing so. My argument is that they never thought that well of us in the first place !!

Would be interesting to see if Labour was returned to power would they immediately restore aid to its previous levels - and if so what they would cut to pay for it.
I think James has answered your question.