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JRFC Aftermath

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According to my source, or sauce depending on how good the info is.
Jim/Martin Rushe has agreed to sell the club to the fans, leaving only one 2000 debt, the others will be cleared by Jim/Martin, in full ......
If that is the case I hope they get it in writing ..... although I wouldn't hold my breath to be honest ;)
 
Am I also correct in saying that the Supporters Trust and 1874 Northwich FC are two seperate entities

Sort of. There is now only one entity which is the club (legally registered as Northwich Community Football Club).

This was a brand new entity that was formed by a of a merger between the old supporters trust (NVST) and another (new) trust.
 
But any ("optimistic") claims (valid or otherwise) are now essentially historic?
 
Yes, just as claims for monies owed by, say, the NVFC of the Drill Field days, or Woolworth's, or Lehmann Brothers, or British Leyland, or any other company or body which no longer exists.
They are, to quote James Thurber, leading lives of noisy desperation.
 
It is in keeping with the culture of JRFC and its members though.

They want a "piece of the action" that through hard work, perseverance, and dedication of the likes of Toddy, Guy and other 1874 fans who have worked tirelessly to raise funds for THEIR club and now these JR apologists who now realize that their hero is a crook and their loyalty misplaced they now want to muscle in to other clubs finance because they perceive it as easy money and therefore their right.

The spirit of JR is alive and well!
 
I think that those people still connected with JRFC must be living in cloud cuckoo land if they think running a fans owned club would be easy. With my time on the board I know how much it costs to run a football club and the cost to even get a game on. However it is all the time and dedication of the board members, the volunteers and fund raisers that is vital and needed in the running of a club. I very much doubt that anybody still with JRFC realise that. If they are still determined to carry on, then their best chance to surviving as a fans owned club would be for them to relegated to step 6 or even step 7 (Cheshire league) of the non league pyramid but as a club they would still have to satisfy certain criteria and have a fully costed business plan. That said, I still believe that it is only a matter of time before JRFC meets a natural death which will finally consign them to history.
 
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And inevitably when that happens they will blame everyone else, particularly the owners of 1874 for their club's demise.
The ironic thing is that the spirit of Northwich Victoria FC as a proper club is alive and well at the Barton Stadium.
 
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The hangers on have only got Jim Rushe and themselves to blame . As was made clear to Jim Rushe, his private club is nothing without the support of its fans and so it has proved to be the case. We moved on, the remaining few didn't, but that was their choice. The old club died on the day Jim Rushe lost the Victoria stadium - fact
 
For what it is worth that was my motivator to get behind 1874

Well, while we are sharing, the final clincher for me, was his crass performance at the fan meeting at Winnington Rec, that along with the pathetic "straw poll" vote stunt about fighting for the VS instead of buckling down to some sort of sensible negotiation. All water in the bridge now and to be honest I'm grateful he provided us with those two motivating actions (or should that be in-actions?); I'd rather be where WE are today.
 
Comments section of Northwich Guardian replying to quotes on here is comedy genius......

Nobody at Northwich Vics has said it would be easy and are fully aware as to how difficult running a football club is.

Vics fans have been running the club for 4 months now and know full well what running a football club involves. our hardworking committee menbers, supporters and volunteers have been working really hard these past few months to keep the club going.

Good thing is we can now make that decison for ourselves, should we not be able to continue in our current form, we would have the option to downsize and with our excellent junior set-up from under 7's upto under 17's there are many options available. So Vics could be around for many years to come.

http://www.northwichguardian.co.uk/sport/14810669.Vics_invite_supporters_to__crucial__meeting/

I wonder, do the FA, NPL and HMRC know that JRFC fans are now running their club, surly there are rules and laws to adhere too?
 
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Purely playing devils advocate and I'm not for one second being naive about this, just opening it up for discussion. Say what a Rushe is saying is true and he'll offer the club with barely any debt to supporters, could 1874 Northwich not buy the club off him, wind down 1874 and run NVFC at Witton in the higher league to 1874 and try to build bridges with the 600 fans who deserted Northwich football? Like I said, just opening it up!
 
Many times no. Buying a club where the years of debts have been washed away would make the purchaser complicit in the avoidance of all those debts, IMO. How on earth could we claim any moral or ethical stance if we did that?
 
Purely playing devils advocate and I'm not for one second being naive about this, just opening it up for discussion. Say what a Rushe is saying is true and he'll offer the club with barely any debt to supporters, could 1874 Northwich not buy the club off him, wind down 1874 and run NVFC at Witton in the higher league to 1874 and try to build bridges with the 600 fans who deserted Northwich football? Like I said, just opening it up!

Who in their right mind would put their name anywhere near a company that's been run by a drug dealer to do god knows what with?

I'm told at the meeting it was said that Preston are still owed money for Dom Collins!!! How many more debts like that will come out of the woodwork?
 
The name of Northwich Victoria FC is absolutely toxic in this town.
No local reputable individual or company would have anything to do with it.
 
The name of Northwich Victoria FC is absolutely toxic in this town.
No local reputable individual or company would have anything to do with it.
And yet there are many who don't know the difference and confuse the two. So only toxic to some? Not point scoring here just reminding people that the world of 74 and NVFC is only a very small corner of the world of Mid-Cheshire. Keep all options that might benefit us in mind whether we like them or not. Most will be discarded but there may be things coming out of the current situation we haven't even thought of yet.
 
It is indeed true that not only many locals but people around the country do not see the difference, but amalgamating in some form is hardly going to solve that. And the ones who confuse the two aren't motivated enough (yet) to go to either. I fail to see how purchasing the remnants of NVFC would either clear the confusion in people's minds or result in an upsurge of support.

The moral high ground may be a bit of a rarified atmosphere and you need a thick skin and a ready supply of Swarfega to cope with being so often tarred with the same brush, but swallowing all the humble pie necessary if we went down any merger route would only result in a localised obesity crisis.

Enough of mixed metaphors. Our message was, is and should be that we are different.
 
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